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Performer: Coil
Album: Backwards
Country: UK
Released: 29 Oct 2015
Style: Experimental, Industrial
Label: Cold Spring
Genre: Electro
Catalog #: CSR203LP
Size MP3: 2133 mb.
Rating: 4.3/5
Votes: 786
Record Source: 2 × Vinyl, LP, Album

Coil Cold Spring Experimental Industrial 2015

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Tracklist

1	Fire Of The Green Dragon	4:42
2	A Cold Cell	6:20
3	Nature Is A Language - The Test	5:38
4	Be Careful What You Wish For	3:48
5	CopaCaballa	5:40
6	Intro	0:50
7	AYOR (It’s In My Blood)	3:09
8	Heaven's Blade	8:18
9	Paint Me As A Dead Soul	6:47
10	Amber Rain	5:44
11	Fire Of The Mind	7:07
12	Backwards	6:47

Versions

Category	Artist	Title (Format)	Label	Category	Country	Year
none	Coil	Backwards ‎(18xFile, MP3, Album, 192)	Not On Label (Coil)	none	2015
none	Coil	Backwards ‎(18xFile, AAC, Album)	Not On Label (Coil)	none	2015
CSR203LP	Coil	Backwards ‎(2xLP, Album, TP, W/Lbl)	Cold Spring	CSR203LP	UK	2015
none	Coil	Backwards ‎(18xFile, FLAC, Album)	Not On Label (Coil)	none	2015
CSR203CD	Coil	Backwards ‎(CD, Album)	Cold Spring	CSR203CD	UK	2015

Credits

Artwork – Abby Helasdottir
Co-producer, Mixed By – Coil
Lacquer Cut By – Greg Moore
Mastered By – Gregg Janman
Performer [With Assistance From] – Drew McDowell
Performer [With Assistance From], Programmed By [Akai Linn/ Sampler/ D10 /Korg Polysix/ Nord Programming And Playing] – Danny Hyde
Performer, Written-By [Co-Written By] – Balance, Christopherson
Programmed By [Additional Studio Vision Programming By] – Peter Christopherson
Vocals – Jhon Balance
Written-By [Co-Written By] – McDowell
Written-By [Co-Written By], Co-producer, Mixed By – Hyde

Notes

Double LP in gatefold sleeve.
Comes with a download card for the entire album in FLAC-format.
Copies ordered directly from Danny Hyde come with an insert with pictures and additional information.
Copies ordered directly from Cold Spring come with a postcard.

Barcodes

Barcode (Scanned): 641871744602
Barcode (Printed): 0641871744602
Matrix / Runout (Side A - hand-etched): CSR 203 LP A B̶ MPO
Matrix / Runout (Side B - hand-etched): CRS 203 LP B GREG @ FINYL TWEEK MPO
Matrix / Runout (Side C - hand-etched): CSR 203 LP C MPO
Matrix / Runout (Side D - hand-etched): CSR 203 LP D GREG @ FINYL TWEEK MPO

Companies

Manufactured By – MPO
Recorded At – Slut's Hole Studio
Recorded At – Creek Street
Recorded At – Swanyard Studios
Recorded At – Intimate Studios
Recorded At – Magazine Studios, New Orleans
Mastered At – Hermetech Mastering
Lacquer Cut At – Finyl Tweek

Album

The Orchard Music от лица. Coil - Musick to Play in the Dark Vol. Coil - Black Antlers Full Album, Corrected Upload. The New Backwards is an album by Coil released on April 18, 2008. The album is reworked from the Backwards demo, which was originally created for Nothing Records. The New Backwards was produced by Peter Christopherson and Danny Hyde, and is reworked from the Backwards demo, which was submitted to Torso Records in 1993 and then further recorded at Trent Reznor's Nothing Studios in New Orleans, Louisiana, in the mid-1990s for a planned release on Reznor's Nothing Records imprint on major label. Покупайте и продавайте винил и компакт-диски, формируйте. Listen free to Coil Backwards Intro, Backwards and more. 12 tracks 66:25. After the groundbreaking release of 1990s Loves Secret Domain album, Coil were not dormant their main project was Backwards, which was started in 1992, updated considerably between 1993 and 1995, and transferred in 1996 to New Orleans, where it was finished in the magic of the Nothing Studios of Trent Reznor Nine Inch Nails. After the groundbreaking release of 1990s Loves Secret Domain album, Coil were not dormant their main project was Backwards, which was started in 1992, updated considerably between 1993 and 1995, and. About Backwards. This album was recorded in Trent Reznors Nothing Studios, and features equipment on loan from Reznor himself. Completed in 1996, the album was initially meant for release around the same time, but soon after was tabled outright. It was not until nineteen years later that Danny Hyde, a surviving member of personnel, got the album a proper release. Backwards Q&A. Album 2016 12 Songs. Electronic 2016. Album: Backwards demo. Notes: The unreleased Coil album recorded for Trent Reznor's Nothing Records. This album was reworked decades later for the proper release The New Backwards. Songs here are in a much different form and many more are omitted from the proper release. Backwards CSR203CD by Coil, released 09 October 2015 1. Intro 2. Backwards 3. Amber Rain 4. Fire Of The Green Dragon 5. Be Careful What You Wish For 6. Nature Is A Language 7. Heaven's Blade 8. Copacaballa 9. Paint Me As A Dead Soul 10. Ayor It's In My Blood 11. A Cold Cell 12. Fire Of The Mind After the ground-breaking release of 1990's Love's Secret Domain album, Coil were not dormant the main project was Backwards, which was started in 1992, updated considerably between 1993 and 1995, and transferred in 1996 to New Orleans, where it was finis. Coil - Backwards 2015. To favorites 4 Download album. Listen album. Songs in album Coil - Backwards 2015. Coil - Intro. Coil - Backwards. Coil - Be Careful What You Wish For. Coil - Amber Rain. Coil - Nature Is A Language. Coil - Fire Of The Green Dragon. Coil - Heaven's Blade. Coil: Backwards album review. Simon Tucker. October 5, 2015. Coil: Backwards Cold Spring Records. LP CD. Out now. Finally getting an official and remastered release, Backwards is the mythical lost album from seminal experimental band Coil. Many of the tracks have appeared on compilations, bootlegs, or as reworked versions on other albums but now we get to hear the album as it was originally intended. Walk into a world where the past is swirling through your being, where synthetic sounds mix with centuries old poetry a

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I listened to the disc with headphones and I did not notice any type of distortion, nor on the D side.Some horrible pressing have appears in the market in the last years but this is OK

Since everyone else is taking liberties with Coil's music, I'm going to go ahead change the file name of "Be Careful What You Wish For" back to the name it was called in every other incarnation of this material while Jhon & Peter were around back to - ELVESI like that much better and it's what the track actually sounds like to me...devious little elves!Also I must say, the art work for this is real shame considering the effort Coil put into their packaging etc.. Definitely shows a laziness and lack of care by those who put this out. I guess that's how it is when you're just looking for a quick cash grab and just want to rush out there with very little thought. To be honest I hope there's no further supposed releases under the name Coil. Jhonn (Geff) and Peter were THE ONLY people sanctioned to release music under the name Coil but somehow there is still material surfacing? I for one have no way of knowing if any of this stuff is really the work they did or just thrown together by other people close to Coil looking to cash in on their name. This goes for "Time Machines II" Backwards [2015]", "Electric Sewer Age I, II", "Unreleased NIN remixes". Fo me, those releases will always live in a separate grey area as to the uncertainty of their authenticity. No offense to Danny Hyde and whoever organized the release of TMII...just saying.

i think of COIL's infamous "cursing" of the Russian bootlegs back when they were mostly alive often these days. to be honest i think people are so desperate for hard copy versions of these (including me) that they'll take almost anything. i truly wish that Threshold House or whomever was controlling the rights back then had not constricted the release quantities of these albums...

Happy to say my copy just arrived. No distortion on side D. High quality set.

The only things I don't like about this release are external to the music. However it was said, that it is the final order of tracks, it seems to me very chaotic (in a bad way). Minor changes like replacing Amber Rain with AYOR give this album much more fluency. It looks like story then. Story about a man who saw the strangest things which should not be seen by human eyes and now they're burning him from the inside.

I haven't listened to my vinyl copy of this so I can't chime in on the distortion conversation.I do appreciate the very late released of this album although to me it hasn't aged well (but I also think the same or House Rotorvator, so my opinion may not mean much!). The track Backwards itself while being a wonderful piece of Coil is also a great example of the anachronism of mid nineties industrial dance music. I've never really considered Coil an industrial dance band (they are so unlike Ministry, KMFDM, etc...) but this particular piece seems to place them into that genre. Perhaps it was the zeitgeist...Heaven's Blade me has always been the Greek of the Backwards sessions and the version here is one of Clio's pop masterpieces.What disappointed me the most about these mixes was the complete disappearance of Mick Harris's drums. Were they actually removed and replaced with tinny drum machines on this supposed final mix? Or were they removed later? To me the Dutch radio version of Spastiche sounds so much more in line with the whole of Coil's back catalogue that the absence of the live drums here makes no sense. But what do I know? Nothing...

I suppose I could have chosen my words better and thank you for contributing to a conversation. I would beg to differ with your opinion though. Many electronic music album's reflect the time in which they were recorded more MORE than rock albums. While there have been several changes in recording technology (especially since the digital revolution!) refinements in guitar and microphone tech have nothing on the bar changes in samplers and synth technology in just the last thirty. I don't really care to argue about this, I just brought it up because I felt a bit insulted by your comment; which I hope was in jest.All this being said, what do you think of the absence of Mick Harris' drums on this version of Spastiche?

Horse Rotorvator has aged very well, I still listen to that album all the time. So yes you're correct in thinking your opinion has no validity or credibility. I find that nowadays, that phrase "hasn't aged well" is thrown around an awful lot. Music as original and unique as this is timeless. In fact most music is when you get down to it. IMO the music that people often refer to as timeless such as classic rock etc...actually very much has the sound of the time era it was made in. Electronic based music on the other hand has a lot less indicators of when it was made and thus making it much more "timeless" -at least to me.

The sentence, "Heaven's Blade me has always been the Greek of the Backwards sessions and the version here is one of Clio's pop masterpieces." should read, "Heaven's Blade to me has always been the gem of the Backwards sessions and the version here is one of Coil's pop masterpieces." Autocorrect, sigh....

No distortion on the D-side from my personal copie. The entire 2xLP sounds perfectly. The rest, to me, is the traditional argument, when "everyone" died in a band, that "new" sound sources emerge from the past. That said, it's interesting, specially 'bout Coil, who appears to be the dark master-class to shine in some of the business and cultural environments.

Had two plays of the vinyl now, transfer and cut seem to be very good, no distortion on Side D that I can hear, and I have a stellar turntable setup!

No idea, as my copy is very good. I didn't cut or press the vinyl, just did the pre-mastering.

yes, side D has distortion on the first track and i don´t think that pick ups set up have nothing to do here.could be a factory error but it will be the first time i see something like that.i would say that it´s a mastering error and it was originally on the test pressing and nobody cared about it. being so hurry when releasing a record isn´t a good thing.so much reports of distorted copies, noticeably on "A Cold Cell"but of side D. this is not a matter of the manufacturation of some copies. this has to be a matter of the mastering, and test pressing has to sound like that. you have to check it carefully to realize it. i would say that people that say that they don´t hear distortion on "A cold cell" just don´t have listening to it carefully and with headphones, for example.a lot of questions to consider.... will "cold spring" correct it in the next re-presses? in fact everyone who got the vinyl throgh them should be asking for their money back. 23 pounds + postage for a poorly pressed record like this???sadly, people isn´t too demanding about new vinyl presses quality.

I got my vinyl copy yesterday, no distortion on side D, but a few little static crackles that I have yet to determine are "hard wired" into the vinyl, or just the occasional expected vinyl crackle.

I just received a replacement copy of the second record from Cold Spring. The replacement copy is from the 2nd pressing of the record but unfortunately the distortion on "A Cold Cell" is still present.

I listened again, and I hear only the slightest bit of surface noise type static, on only a few instances of "A Cold Cell". This is not something I'd describe as "distortion". On the rare occasions I've had vinyl pressed, one time they said "electro static" is known to happen in the pressing process. This could mean, from what I understand, that it is not on all copies of the vinyl, but on some, and probably more likely to happen if they tried to press too many copies from the same set of stampers. What I heard is not much to complain about, but I think it could be worse on other copies.

Has anybody gotten any feedback from Cold Spring about this issue so far?

Sad to hear that so many people seem to be complaining about side D. I am STILL waiting for my vinyl copy, and never received a test pressing, or I would have caught it (I have a very nice TT setup here and was the mastering engineer on the release). I didn't cut the vinyl though, so it's nothing to do with me (if you listen to the digital files you'll hear there is no distortion). I asked many times to be sent a test pressing from Cold Spring but never received one. :(

Great album, and totally agree with Gruener Tee. Am personally always excited + skeptical when it comes to Coil. But no matter what, their music and sound is like nothing else. Its always a rewarding listening journey, as they are so unique.Sad this first pressing has a distorted D side - at least my copy has which is sad. But stil. What a piece of music this album is. Even if not a big fan, I always buy a Coil recording, as I can listen, learn, be surprised, discover new. This is for me, what great music is all about. Coil is always inspirational to listen to

pgspecialagent Great album, and totally agree with Gruener Tee. Am personally always excited + skeptical when it comes to Coil. But no matter what, their music and sound is like nothing else. Its always a rewarding listening journey, as they are so unique.Sad this first pressing has a distorted D side - at least my copy has which is sad. But stil. What a piece of music this album is. Even if not a big fan, I always buy a Coil recording, as I can listen, learn, be surprised, discover new. This is for me, what great music is all about. Coil is always inspirational to listen to Yes the vinyl copy I purchased also has a destortion on side D first track a cold cell and track two fire of the mind has a repeated click in the recording upon a close inspection as well.

Interesting versions for those who are familar with the work of coil. But only a minor footstep in the history of coil i guess. Besides the discussion on the "official" status of this release, its still a great opportunity for people new to coil to get them on vinyl ...without having to pay inflationary prices or get those aweful sounding russian pressings.

This edition has the merit of having the crappiest presentation of all COIL releases . Obviously the record label is more interested , and hurry, in making money than in providing a decent release for the memory of COIL .

... like most labels anno 2015 (yawn).

Cheers dude!

It sounds good. You did a great job. Unfortunately one of the member's names is spelled wrong and the art leaves much to be desired. It is wasteful as a gatefold. I'm looking forward to what the actual art was supposed to look like when the "crappy CDs with no track list" version of Backwards comes out.

Ah OK, as far as I know I haven't added anything to any collection ever, does that happen automatically if you rate something?

I just saw that you have rated it with 5 stars and that you have added CD and LP version to your collection.

I don't have either the vinyl or the CD unfortunately, what makes you think I do? I did master the release though. I was just wondering how the vinyl transfer was, did you give it a listen yet? It's gotta be better than those crappy covers with no track titles on the recent CD re-issues though, right? :)

Let's see... you have both, CD and vinyl, and still wonder how they sound??that's quite weird!!about how it looks, maybe you don give a shit but the artwork of a record and the music are both important. if you just want the music, it's free for download from archive.org.COIL always gave importance to their artworks, as they did with their music. When you release a reord you have to think about both, even you release just a 7" on a white paper sleeve. both are ways of expresion that refer to each other.

Not really worried about how it looks, how does it sound?

This is a difficult one to call, a golden opportunity for the fans or for opportunists? I see a Discogs member has added Unofficial Release to all listings (possibly a tad harshly) so the validity of this release is definitely dividing opinion. My real unease about this release is that if Peter would have been happy for the tracks to surface as is, why did he choose to reinterpret/reconstruct/remix most of them (with Danny heavily involved) on "The New Backwards" and "Ape of Naples"? To me that feels like a decision made by a man who was not happy with the original versions, be they demos or close-to-complete recordings....Whether I end up buying a copy or not will depend on hearing samples for the mastering/sound quality, as well as whether the content sounds anywhere near finished.

Some good points John! Yes, same people responsible for releasing this as Recoiled (Danny Hyde & ColdSpring, also mastered by me). Like I said below, who's to say whether they would be happy with its release or not, now that they are bothdead? Arguing about it ios just pissing in the wind, if you ask me.If you research you'll find two main reasons given for the fact that it has never been released before now, in much more detail than I can give, but to sum it up: 1) They desperately wanted it to be released but there was a whole long chain of command via Nothing Records, and its parent company Interscope records, with clauses in contracts stating that Sleazy would be required to direct all the music videos from the labels for a certain time etc., and they just did not want to do this. The lawyers ('men in grey suits' as Dan calls them) made certain the record wouldn't be released without them fulfilling all contractual details. 2) As you say, they were not happy happy with the release, but I think this came after all the hassles talked about in 1. They had just had enough and time went on, and the record was just not where they were at any more, so they kind of gave up on it. This is all available online, check the Brainwashed archives etc.The people involved in this one were: John Balance, Peter Christopherson, Drew McDowall and Danny Hyde. A lot of it was recorded in Trent's studio in New Orleans. AFAIK quite a few people have distanced themselves from the Coil legacy (Drew, Ossian, Stephen etc.) because of the overall bad vibes, infighting and difficulty in getting anything released, and also just because they have moved on and are doing exciting new things and have better things to worry about.At the end of the day, from my POV, it's a lovely album that deserves to be out there and I am happy that it will finally get a general release, as a properly mastered version. Mastering it was a labour of love for me, I spent 2 and half weeks on it, with no idea it would eventually get picked up and released. "New" Coil albums will become rarer and rare as time goes on, so count your lucky stars!

To say that these people have "distanced themselves from the Coil legacy" is quite presumptive and pretty inflammatory. Drew McDowall is pretty active online, perhaps I'll link him to this comment and see what he has to say about it. He sure seems to speak amicably of jhonn and Peter and regularly cites his history with the group. I know that Coil were on a compilation with Cyclobe long after Steven was out of the group. All of these people should feel blessed that they had any involvement what so ever with Coil. It's quite known that Steven was at odds with the direction they decided to take in their music so perhaps that's a reason they had to let him go.

It looks like those responsible for releasing the NIN remixes, Recoiled, are exactly those responsible for releasing this. I don't believe for a minute that Sleazy and Jhon meant for the NIN remixes to be released as a Coil album. Perhaps I should feel lucky and accept that they wanted this one to be released. The obvious question is, then, why did they shelve it and move on, why didn't they release it at any point during the years they continued to record and perform? Interviews from the time make it pretty clear that they weren't happy with the sessions. I understand that Danny Hyde worked closely with Sleazy and I'm not trying to paint him as an opportunist... I simply don't believe Jhon would have wanted Recoiled released, and I haven't read anything to indicate he wanted the "backwards" sessions, as they were in New Orleans, released. Obviously, they would have released it if they "wanted it out there," but rather they ditched the sessions and moved in a different musical direction. I'll get this... how could I not? Still, I'm very happy with the more experimental direction they took after LSD, and if this is, was, "too much of its time," reflecting the club scene on the mid-nineties, I don't expect it to rank among my favorites. Maybe I'm completely wrong about what's coming down the wires. I hope to be pleasantly surprised. Who was involved in this one? Was Ossian Brown in the line-up (seems he was going by a different name at the time)? Has he said anything about it? I must go digging. This info on Discogs says very little. Who was in this incarnation of COIL besides Peter and Jhon? Okay, off to dig.

I agree with you here. Those unreleased NIN remixes should never have been put out to the public. Most of them are just unfinished jams/different bits and pieces. It's an obvious attempt at a money grab by Danny Hyde which is kind of shameful really. It does put a blemish on the Coil name. Jhon and Peter were HIGHLY selective of the music they put out to the world and the NIN remixes they did release are vastly superior to whats on that recoiled release. It's a crime really for people to be releasing music under the Coil name as they see fit...blasphemy. Even this Backwards version, who knows how much of this is really what they created or if it's just pieced together in the studio as Danny Hyde thought it should be. It is what it is but I will always view these releases as separate from what Coil put out themselves.

Pretty sure Sleazy & John would have been pleased to see this finally out there, but who can say either way now?Yes, this is from the sessions recorded for Trent Reznor's Nothing label in New Orleans in the mid 90's. Not a bootleg as to my knowledge it was released with the permission of everyone involved who is still alive.The album is fantastic (I've had it a few years and mastered it over a year ago).Print runs for both CD and vinyl are "unlimited", as in there should be loads available for anyone who wants one for the foreseeable future.

See my post above, explains all!

Actually the only official member of Coil who is still very much alive and well on this release is Drew McDowall. Was he consulted? Danny was a paid engineer and never a member of Coil. (Don't trust my words, trust Peter and John's - http://brainwashed.com/coil/engineers.mp3 ) Additionally, Peter had decided on artwork for this release, so who came up with this art? It doesn't look like anything Geff and Peter would approve of. Furthermore the first song is titled "Entrance" from John Balance's hand-written tracklist, and the final song, titled "Exit," also on the tracklist, is absent. Finally, the copyright owner of Coil's music (who isn't me) hasn't given permission for this to be released.

Was this the session recorded at Trent R's studio in New Orleans? Cold Springs releasing another "bootleg," like the Hyde smuggled NIN remixes. It's a shame that there are no quality reissues of material COIL was happy with and released, but material they didn't finish in a way they were satisfied with slips out when neither Peter or John are around to defend their legacy.

Yep, it's down right sacrilege - all these parasites profiting from releasing music under the Coil name that was never approved of...and likely never would be - for official release. Especially when you consider just how incredibly selective Geff and Peter were about what they put out. It's a massive disrespect to them IMO. But hey I guess nothing is sacred, money and greed rule this world.

Well and good, but neither John nor Peter made the Facebook post, and it is made very clear in the interviews in England's Hidden Reverse that they didn't leave New Orleans feeling like they had finished up to its full glory any new record. They abandoned the sessions dissatisfied and began work on another project without finishing and releasing the album they'd been working on in New Orleans... wanted to NOT release an album "too much of its time," but were in 96 giving interviews stating the view that COIL, Nurse with Wound, and Current 93 (who had dramatically shifted into different sounds NOT of its time, though others began imitating), were a triangle, and wanted to move in a more experimental direction, different from, but certainly inspired by Nurse with Wound. They, or John at least, did not want to do dance music, and was disturbed that people were calling Love's Secret Domain a dance album (though, come on, The Snow and WindowPane, were perfect club songs).

I don't know. My impression (not absolute certitude) was that it wasn't finished up in 1996, that they were feeling pressure from the success of LSD, that they worried what they were doing in New Orleans was too much of it's time (club music), and left America without getting anything finished up in a way they were please with, and decided to move away from "too much of it's time" into more experimental directions. Who exactly is saying this is Backwards as it was meant to be released, or that it was ever finished up? Who exactly said that Recoiled was meant for release?

A quote from COIL Facebook Group: "The 93 bootleg demo, is just that.. Unfinished demos. The New Backwards is remixes of some of those tracks and is remixed by Danny Hyde and Peter Christopherson. the Cold Spring Backwards release is the album in it's full intended glory, the way it was meant to be released after it was all finished up in New Orleans at Trent Reznor's studio back in 1996."

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